We can combine Dexedrine with Nardil because reformulated Nardil no longer has the power or punch like the original. Therefore, I believe the Dex. won't hurt you or cause a reaction.
Joe - Call my doc.
   (Fri Feb 3 10:45 2012)

Your doc is being cautious which I guess is part of his job. Seratonin syndrome is possible with dex or with any med that is contraindicated with Nardil.
Being on dex with Nardil is not the same as old Nardil. The old Nardil left you plesantly 'normal' like everyone else most of the time. Mixing dex with new Nardil is a little trickier knowing when to take another dose, & how much.
There were many times that I was hypomanic on dex but of course I loved that feeling. So much energy & of course that great 'up' feeling.
Wish dex or something like it was readily available & legal. Wouldn't need this weak, reformulated version of Nardil at all.   (Thu Feb 2 15:13 2012)

Thanks for the info. , I've been trying to get it now for the last two times I've seen him. He seems to be dead set against it,because I'll get an over load of serotonin or something like that. How would
you describe it to the old Nardil? It had that get up and go, which this new stuff
doesn't have. I remember taking 3-4 pills
and two hrs. later I was good for the day.
You knew when it kicked in.I'm still trying to figure out why this new generic stuff has no get up and go.
Joe   (Thu Feb 2 14:12 2012)

Let hope now its ok. I dont like to loose my friends tha know for years
All the best for the future> Even without the old Nardil   (Wed Feb 1 19:49 2012)

Hello ALL
This forum is driving me crazy.....Its hard to logon, what its the problem i have no idea
my new email its: luigi.zomparelli@hotmail.com
If any one know how to fix it please tell me,will be appreciated   (Wed Feb 1 19:45 2012)

Hello ALL
This forum is driving me crazy.....Its hard to logon, what its the problem i have no idea
my new email its: luigi.zomparelli@hotmail.com
If any one know how to fix it please tell me,will be appreciated   (Wed Feb 1 19:44 2012)

I was on dex for about 8 months, no side effects, no trouble sleeping. But don't take too late in the day. No withdrawal when I quit. I'm surprised Helen stays at the same dose cuz you build up tolerance fairly quickly.
I have never tried cocaine but I'd say the effects are pretty similar. You kind of get a high that lasts around 3 hours & then you need to take another dose. Again, I loved it but so too does a coke addict on cocaine. Because of this it is hard to convince a dr to prescribe it.   (Wed Feb 1 15:39 2012)

Hey Dan, How are you doing? We havent heard
from you in a while. Hope your hanging in there.
Joe   (Wed Feb 1 12:02 2012)

Thanks for responding.I was hoping more people were on it.I heard you can build up
tolerance,50 mg glrizzz, how long did you
take it for? Did you have any kind of trouble on it,like sleeping,etc? How about getting off it?
Helen, I know you were on it for a while and
it still works ok? no problems?I want to ask you both a favor and write me
a note, I'll email you about it.
thanks again
Joe   (Wed Feb 1 11:58 2012)

Yes 50 mg IS alot, but due to tolerance I built up to it over time. I loved it. Made you very up & you lost as much weight as you wanted. Fortunately my BP was naturally low. If Dan is feeling as low as I think he is I wish his doc would try dex on a monitored basis. One of few things that work immediately for major depression. Too many gray days leaves you without hope.   (Mon Jan 30 18:42 2012)

WOW 50 mg of Dexedrine seems very high.
I only take 7 1/2 mg a day. Really does the trick.
   (Mon Jan 30 10:11 2012)

i AM WONDERING WHY I CANT LOG IN THIS ROOM,IF YOU KNOW HOW SEND ME AN EMAIL AT:
luigi.zomparelli@hotmail.com
Thank you very much   (Sun Jan 29 15:25 2012)

As I've written before, dex with Nardil is very effective, but depends on the individual & your ability to convince your pdoc of it's merits. High blood pressure, tolerance, and hypomania are just a few of the concerns.
I had no problems on up to 50 mgs, but was unable to continue when I switched dr's & he wouldn't prescribe it. You need a pretty open-minded doc along with a super resistive case of depression.   (Sun Jan 29 12:13 2012)

You know my story. It's a great lift, and my energy kicked in big time!
Helen
   (Sat Jan 28 13:38 2012)

hi Joe
I did stop taking the nardil,maybe a candy will do the same thing> i try all antipressant non do work, at moment i am on Sertraline (soloft), let hope will help.
I hope you doing ok........we are getting old> I wish the old nardil will be back
Take care my friend
NOTE: the new email its: luigi.zomparelli@hotmail.com   (Sat Jan 28 13:15 2012)

Any body out there that has taken dex. with
nardil? can you tell me how it was. did it give you more motovation to do things?
Any info will be welcomed
Joe   (Sat Jan 28 13:04 2012)

Luigi, how have you been? still on the nardil? anyway its good to see you made it back.   (Sat Jan 28 13:01 2012)

my email address as been changed:
luigi.zomparelli@hotmail.com   (Fri Jan 27 13:13 2012)

have been month that was not possible to open this foroom... finally i made it.
at present i am taking Sertraline.....i havent see any good resoults yet.
I did notice that Helen K Joe Dr Undies and Dan still posting. I hope all are doing good. If any one as any suggestion for me, please tell me.
Hugs to all   (Fri Jan 27 13:11 2012)

I went to :www.Latuda.com , it has a rundown
on the product.Are you still taking nardil?

Can you tell me what happened when you took
dex w/nardil- did it help?

I can't get my pdoc to prescribe it - thinks it will blow my brain out?

I am taking 10 nardils ped day and crap doesn't know the meaning of : kicking in.
old nardil 3-4 pills did the job.
whats your take on nardil w/dex?
Thanks and I hope this new stuff helps you.   (Fri Jan 27 11:56 2012)

Anyone ever try Latuda, a relatively new anti-psychotic adjunct? Went off the Abilify becuz of weight gain & pdoc put me on Latuda. Been on it only 4 days so too early to tell if it has an effect, but just wondering if anyone else has tried this.   (Wed Jan 25 15:04 2012)

Hi Payn

I never officially increased the daily dosage of 45mg. Unofficially (without doctor's approval) I would take up to 90mg /day just for the high that it gave me...however, I do stress that along with that high feeling..my life suffered in subtle ways.

Think living a hypo-manic episode for an extended period..that's about the best way I can describe the effect. Eventually I dropped back to only 45mg /day and never increased the dose.

All was basically well until Sept 2003 when Nardil was reformulated and like many people on this website...experienced withdrawal symptoms ..yet..had no idea it was because the drug had been reformulated behind everyone's backs.

I'm no longer on Nardil as of 6 weeks ago...the withdrawal/discontinuation syndrome for long term users can be particularly brutal... I think Helen experienced these nasty effects more acutely than most peeps on this site.

Hope that answers your questions.

Cheers
Doc   (Wed Jan 25 4:37 2012)

I took Nardil from @78---@2005. In 1978 it saved my life. I'd tried everything available and was scared to death of Nardil. Back then there were no blogs, groups, etc. only the PDR at the local library.

I took 60 mg every morning for 4 wks and got nothing. My doc said it was over....I had a sense from the little I'd read that Nardil was the answer. I convinced the doc to let me continue. I went to 90 mg. each morning. Yes I suffered some of the side effects at that dosage. Two wks. at 90 mg. ( I'll never forget ) we were camping and I woke up and my brain was humming. I woke my wife and told her I was back from the "Black hole of Hell". I then reduced to 60 mg. and stayed there until @2005. I took all 4 tabs when I arose each day.

2005 my life went to hell....Nardil just wouldn't do the job.....some days were better than others but over-all I couldn't function. My problem was depression/severe panic. Anyone having this curse knows the life we live. I got off it and tried SSRI's,SNRI's got nothing.

Today, I drink 6 glasses of H2O/day just to supply the tears...it's tough. I'm trying Wellbutrin as it works on norepinephrine as Nardil does. 2 wks. and nothing yet.

If I had my choice I'd be using Parnate but my doc won't allow.......she feels she knows best......

Bottom line, the MAOI's are the last chance for a small percentage of us. The only reason doc's won't use is they're scared you'll rupture vessels in your brain because you can't read the do & dont"t.

I had a life because of Parke Davis's PD270 15 mg pill. So I do thank them.....without it I would have died years ago.

My advice to all the younger people, read everything you can. ( Not the MD's, PHD's ) they have no idea. Read what the suffering are doing, trying, etc. Take a good vitamin, eat well, and minimize alcohol use. ( use only as last resort )

   (Tue Jan 24 19:18 2012)

Hi Payn1:
I started Nardil 23 years ago, and on 3 tablets a day, my life was heaven!
In 2003 Pfizer Inc. changed the formula of Nardil and moved the manufacturing to France where they have old and inadequate equipment.
There had to be at least 100 people on this web site experiencing horrific symptoms, all crying in agony taking this CRAP!
If you followed this site since 2003, you would see.
(Many had to stop Nardil to try something else, or added other drugs to help Nardil work better).

Like me, many lost their jobs, and now live a life of Hell. We had a large group contact Pfizer and fight the changes in Nardil, but they ignored us. They don't care we are suffering.
Pfizer is all about $$$$!

My life is essentially over. I lost my job, my pension, my friends, my hobbies, and volunteer work. I sweat horribly and can't leave the house in the Summer.
My memory is nearly gone; I can't think straight and suffer a lot of anxiety.
Exercise is a thing of the past.

I still take Nardil but had to increase my dose to 6 tablets per day. Also, my doctor added Lamictal and Dexedrine, so at least I have no pain.

AND that's why Nardil is crap.
Good for you if it works.
What other drugs did you try before Nardil?
Thanx
Helen



   (Tue Jan 24 11:09 2012)

thanks for your reply and advice, I really appreciative it! So, you was(probably) three weeks on 45 mg and them ? ...Did you increase your dosage up to 60mg per day ?
What dosage are you taking now and for how long ? Thanks.   (Tue Jan 24 8:27 2012)

Hey, does anyone know how Dan is? Im worried.

Also, not sure if its worth mentioning, but I have a bottle of opened nardil with 200 tablets inside, and 2 repeats of 200 tablets each?

Is it worth trying to get them to one of you guys or not?

Cheers Sandy   (Tue Jan 24 6:02 2012)

Could you please describe me your experience with Nardil ? How has Nardil ruined your life ?    (Tue Jan 24 5:08 2012)

Back in 1991 when I started Nardil...I took 3 X 15mg tabs per day. For 2 weeks I noticed nothing except that my usual migraine/cluster headaches had ceased. Nardil is now recognised to have a prophylactic effect for vascular type headaches.

I maintained the 45mg/day regimen without increasing the dose for another week...then one day I just bounced out of bed and actually felt "ALIVE". I must admit that I tended to abuse Nardil around those early days..as the feeling was just sooo good.

Be careful that you avoid that path if the Nardil does kick in for you...as it can have many serious consequences from what is basically a drug-induced hypo-manic effect.

The prophylactic effect on the headaches acted for many years... although I did have a few breakthrough headaches...but the frequency was a vast reduction to pre-Nardil.

I used to take the Aussie Nardil up until about 6 weeks ago, when I went through a forced withdrawal of Nardil. So far I'm still doing ok without Nardil and actually feel much better now the Nardil side-effects are no longer an issue.

Good luck with your journey.

Cheers
doc   (Mon Jan 23 20:46 2012)

I understand the Newbie thing. But I'm on this stuff for 23 years, and it's CRAP!
It has ruined my life!

To Payn1: United States Nardil is manufactured in France. I don't know for sure if anyone has tried the UK Nardil.
You are lucky Nardil works well for you; Wait for 4 weeks for it to kick in big time!

   (Mon Jan 23 20:04 2012)

I dont know that from which country you are, but I am from Slovakia (European Union state) and I am taking Archimedes Nardil formula which is manufactured by Archimedes Pharma UK...so, if you are from US or Canada, Australia (or a different continent unlike the Europe)...then you are probably taking different brand/version of Nadril, which can be also different formula and therefore also maybe less effective Nardil ? I dont know, I am just guessing... I have read somewhere that the Nardil manufactured in US is less effective like Nardil manufactured in UK, but i dont know if this statement is true or flase ? I have also read that Nardil may stop working after some time...What are your views on it?   (Mon Jan 23 19:45 2012)

Hi Helen, It seems that when people start nardil for the first time it seems to work for them better than for us old timers.To us it is crapdil,to payn1 it's good stuff.
If we look at Eddie,he said the first change
in the 70's was not so good for him. But to us it was the gold standard.So this second change must be real bad for him.Payn you are lucky so enjoy!   (Mon Jan 23 12:38 2012)

Eddie,How long were you on nardil? You said

they changed it in the 70's ? and you had

to go up to 90mg for it to kick in? How much

of pre 70 stuff did you have to take? and

what do you take now? and do you get any

kind of kick in now?

   (Mon Jan 23 12:21 2012)

What does it mean "CRAP" ? Maybe it is "crap" for you, but for me it is rescue medication. Probably the only drug that really helps me for now !   (Mon Jan 23 8:43 2012)

Take whatever you want. The stuff is CRAP!
   (Sun Jan 22 15:33 2012)

Today is different than when I started nardil. The formula has changed. In the 70's I had to increase to 90 mg in AM for it to kick in. @ 4-5 wks. Back then there wasn't a gradual improvement, it just "kicked in" and you were a new person. Went to 60 mg AM. Stayed that way until @2003 when the gluten was removed in the pharmas for sensitive people.

Today 120 mg may be the number then you back off and adjust to the dose that works for you. As always titrate up slowly and maintain a daily journal as to your mood.    (Sat Jan 21 22:22 2012)

Hello, I started taking Nardil about 2 and a half weeks ago. I have started on 30mg and after two weeks I have gradually increased up to 45 mg. I am now taking 3 x 15 tabs per day just about a week and now I am wondering if it is possible(and mainly safe) to go up to 60mg of Nardil after just one week on 45 mg ? Or I should rather wait at least another week and then I should increase on 60mg dosage?
I am still feeling anxiou and with other symptoms of social phobia ...just one positive effect is increase energy and I am more communicative and I am also less depressed for now.

Thank you in advance for your advice   (Sat Jan 21 9:19 2012)

Thank you for your kind and empathetic words. But PLEASE do not feel guilty because you are well on your way to complete recovery. You deserve it!

Sometimes I think I must have done something really bad to deserve this hell. I am especially sad for those who are the breadwinners, and are now nearly on welfare. Those are the real sufferers.

I wonder if Parnate works so well for you because your depression was milder than most of us (?) How much of the good Nardil did you take?
I took 3 tablets per day, and now I take 6 tablets of the crapdil.

My doc says Parnate will not work for me. I wonder how he knows that?

Sandy, enjoy your new-found freedom.
I pray that each and every one of us are blessed.

   (Thu Jan 19 10:20 2012)

Very happy it is working for some. It never

worked as well as Nardil for me due to

it's lack of effect on GABA and Dopamine. I

noticed it was also less effective the

same time the coating was changed as with

Nardil during Sept. of 2003. Gluten was

removed from the coating, so now Parnate no

longer helps me at all. Nardil still works

depending on the lot# which I still don't

have an answer to. When getting a bad lot#,

have to deal with the placebo effect for a

month and hope the next refill will be a

different lot#.   (Thu Jan 19 1:51 2012)

Has anyone received lot# Z006202? Just

picked up today and seems totally

ineffective.   (Thu Jan 19 1:36 2012)

Thanks sooooooo... much, for the encouraging thoughts.

I plan to continue lingering, on this site everyday, to check-out how my lovely friends are going.

And, look, who knows? To be completely honest, one can never really feel that safe, on any of these drugs. Ive only been on Parnate for 5 weeks, it could still poop-out, or even change its affectiveness (I pray not) Also, keep an eye on Dr.Undies, Valdoxan might be another answer for some?

Helen, the parnate I am taking, is the brand (parnate). I have also read, where the generic doesnt seem to be as affective, (like nardil).

I went shopping, in the city, with my 73 year old mum today. When we got home, she cried. She told me, that she had been grieving, and thinking for ages, that we would never have our old fun days of shopping and laughing together, ever again. Would you believe I had to stop shopping with my mum in 2007, because crapdil just made it too tiring and lethargic for me? Today was magic for my mum

In the same vain, I must add, that I feel terribly guilty.

I feel guilty that Helen, you are isolated and on your own, and suffering so badly, like all on this site.
I feel guilty that Joe you said you feel like a walking zombie,but only 99% dead.
And mostly, I feel guilty for Dan. Where is Dan? and how is he going?

Why has parnate suddenly become a miracle for me, when all you guys are still struggling so terribly????????????????

Yes, Im happy and I seem to have my old life back, but, Im more pent up with anger, and pissed off, than ever before.

Why did Pfizer have to stuff up, so many lives, and just not care?????????????????

I never had much anger on crapdil, but my lord, I have enough now.

Stay strong, and take care
Sandy

   (Wed Jan 18 2:45 2012)

Thats the best news i heard this year. I'm

very happy for you.I like your Doc., letting

you combine Nardil and Parnate,so you didn't

have to wait the full 2 weeks feeling bad.

From your letter, you sound pretty energized

like old nardil. I think this nardil, all

makers use some low grade phenelzine . Thats

why it's crapdil now. Pfizer is known to

make a buck on all there crap,cut coners,

sell stuff that will kill you,bribe DRs. to

use their products and cover up bad data.

I guess we all know that by now.

Thanks for the good news Sandy! :)

   (Tue Jan 17 14:43 2012)

Thanks for the update on Parnate. SO happy for you.
There is one thing I have to ask: Are you taking the Brand Parnate, or generic?
I think this was discussed previously, but I must have missed the post.
Thanks and keep us posted.
Helen   (Tue Jan 17 9:49 2012)

Hi guys,

Things are even better.???

I increased from 50mg parnate a day, upto 60mg, just so that the doses would be even.

I have more energy(jogging for half an hour on the treadmill, each night).

Parnates over-all efficiency, for me, is comparable to the old nardil.

I will definitely not be going any higher though, as I do not want to be manic.

Parnate is 1/8th the potency of amphetamine, and for some people can be quite stimulating, and addictive. Their is a story, I have read a few times, about a guy, who was taking 700mg parnate a day, was very addicted, and suffered terrible side-effects when withdrawing,

There have been trials, and there is a bit of documentation (on different sites), that state, parnate needs to be administered in much higher doses than was originally thought. 30mg daily was the old affective dose, where-as now, 60mg, has taken over from that. But many people are consuming 100-120mg and above, to get the drug to work.

I have read that, soon, Covis Pharma will be acqiring the U.S. rights for Parnate from GlaxoSmithKline, but it will not be another reformulation.

As you can read from my previous posts,my PDoc suggested I could take 2 Nardil, and 1 parnate for a week, to cross-over. This scared me, so within a week, I cut down my nardil dosage from 3 tabs a day, to half a tab. For 1 week I took the half nardil and 1 parnate, and started feeling the parnate working in about 3-4 days, The second week, I went upto 2 Parnate, and no nardil, and so on. I did not experience any withdrawal symptoms whatsoever.

Helen, I relate so very very much to the tiredness you are experiencing on crapdil. That was the absolute worst thing, I got from the reformulation. I felt like I had major, chronic fatigue syndrome. Parnate has taken that away. Im losing a little weight, dont crave for the carbs, (like life and death) as I did on nardil

Surely, I cant be the only person that parnate works for????????

I hope with all my heart, you shall find some luck like this soon. Take care   (Tue Jan 17 3:35 2012)

I would like to try to get off Nardil so I could experience some other meds perhaps Parnate.

I am so sick of these darn Nardil side effects I can't tell you enough about it.
The sweats are unbearable and keep me indoors all Summer. I'm overweight, I have no interest in activity (the sweats again),
I'm tired more than I ever was, and my anxiety levels keep me from working.

I have no friends or hobbies anymore, and I had to give up my volunteer work.

Everything I do is sedentary and alone.

Thank you Nardil -- thank you Pfizer!


   (Mon Jan 16 10:07 2012)

Hi Helen...I'm so sorry to hear of your negative experience with a so-called place of 'help'. I feel pretty much the same way about any mental hospital. About the only good thing about them ..is that the sick person is under some supervision... and drugs can be given at correct dosages and in a timely manner. Aside from those aspects...mental hospitals are just glorified jails. I have spent time in both now and I speak from experience :o)

not really sure WHY you want to withdraw from Nardil in the 1st place Helen. We all know its nowhere near as effective as it used to be...and for many there are new side-effects to deal with. What is your particular issue with Nardil that you want to leave it behind?

Cheers
Andy   (Sun Jan 15 4:24 2012)

Thanks for your post.
When I tried to go off Nardil, I was in bed for 3 months living in agony, fighting for every breath.
I hated to get out of bed, even to take a shower. So exercise was non-existent.

I did in fact go to a mental facility for 1 week as suggested by my therapist. It was a joke! The only therapy was in a group at 9:00 in the evening when everyone was literally falling asleep. No one talked or asked questions and just sat there buggie-eyed.
I would not even think of trying to wean off Nardil in that place. The Staff was mean spirited, and all I wanted was to GET OUT. Horrible experience.


   (Fri Jan 13 13:19 2012)

I started Nardil in 1978 depression/panic and took 60 mg. each morning for 25 years. Best drug ever made until ParkeDavis left. Back then I actually had to force my doc to give it to me. Took 90 mg @ 4 wks. but when it "lit up", my life changed. Then it was taken away from me. Lost everything........tried all the new wonder drugs and they not only failed but worsened my life. My doc refused Parnate as she felt it was too dangerous. Amazing how they can make such a call on my life. I reviewed wellbutrin and it's not a hot fudge sundae on side effects. Anyway wellbutrin was my second choice so we'll see. The MAOI's are somewhat similiar to it.

Taking 75 mg AM / PM on day 4. Have already had 2-3 spurts as if the old brain is trying to fire. We'll update.....   (Fri Jan 13 12:00 2012)

Hi everybody... particularly Helen. Yes it's true that I withdrew rapidly from over 20 years of being on 45mg/day Nardil. However, it was an involuntary action being that I was held in custody at the time..(due to having a hypo-manic episode)and with Nardil being such an obscure old drug...by the time the medical staff had managed to order the Nardil in....I was released from custody.

Needless to say..I belonged in a mental health facility not jail, but this can and does happen to people with mental health issues regularly.

Back to the actual withdrawal symptoms. I was amazed that the usual withdrawal symptoms did not affect me like they have in my previous attempts at tapering off the daily dose slowly over many months. I could possibly attribute this to being locked down in a small cell for 24/7...with brief 5 minute walks ...but still within a confined area and certainly not outside in the fresh air with any sunshine. Just maybe...the lack of physical activity did not stress out my body...and thus this helped me deal with the withdrawals. I don't really know...it's about the only answer that makes any sense to me though.

The point that I'm leading to is that...if you could afford to get yourself into a mental health facility, where your movements are basically restricted and you are being supervised....then just maybe you too could handle that initial 14 day wash-out of Nardil that allows the enzyme levels to return to 'normal'

It's been over 1 month without Nardil, I'm still only taking 25mg Valdoxan at night. My mood is fairly stable, although I do have a fair bit of irritability. The irritability issue was supposed to be addressed by the Seroquel(300mg per day divided dose) However, the only thing it seemed to do for me was make me tired and irritable. So bye bye Seroquel! My wife informs me that I sleep a lot better now since being off Nardil. My restless legs have also stopped being a problem.

I now occasionally take 1 X 100mg Seroquel tablet at night to help me sleep. The Valdoxan 25mg at night, has also helped me re-establish a better sleep-wake cycle. Being an agonist of Melatonin, this is to be expected. Melatonin is produced in the brain when ambient light levels begin to fade...and is the hormone that helps promote sleep. (it is also a precursor of 5-HT...better known as Serotonin.)

To summarise all that.... if you can get into a place where you are monitored and your movements are restricted while you stop taking Nardil...you may be able to tolerate any withdrawal symptoms that have prevented you in the past.

As a side note for those who asked about transferring from Nardil to Parnate:... It can be safely done without the 14 day recommended washout... and I have had to do it at least twice over the last 20 years when there was a supply problem of getting Nardil and my Doc put me onto Parnate until Nardil became available again. (around 2 weeks) My experience with Parnate (pre-2003) was that I found it to be slightly less effective at controlling depression and it gave me a strange sensation in the pit of my stomach. Aside from those 2 minor things though...Parnate is about as good as Nardil in my books. Actually I should qualify that...as that occurred pre-2003 and I believe that Parnate has suffered the same fate of Nardil and was reformulated around the same time.

Cheers
Andy   (Thu Jan 12 21:47 2012)

Sandy,I'm glad you are doing so good on the parnate. I know when it works it feels better than the nardil.It sounds good for you. I remember the good ole days of socializing,and being able to talk to anybody about anything.That was about 10 yrs. ago.Now I'm introverted ,thanks to the new crap nardil.Maybe, again i should try it. But being off 8 pills for 14 days would be hell. thats how long they say nardil stays in your system ( Helen). Damn thats a long time in the pit. But it can be done,Dr.
Undies will tell you.Sorry about what happened to you Dr. Undies. Hope your new meds. are helping.
Wishing everyone the best in 2012!   (Mon Jan 9 11:53 2012)

GOOD FOR YOU! That is the greatest news
any of us have had. Just to feel normal
again must be heaven. Did you have to go off Nardil completely before starting Parnate? That's my problem: weaning off
Nardil. It is the worst hell for me.
That said, I would love to try Parnate.
Good luck and stay well !!!
   (Mon Jan 9 10:07 2012)